Quote from Sideshow on 06/21/2023, 05:18

Well this isnt what Most prefer but i really like low powered Euro styled scopes . Specifically for lets say a shorter range by smokeless standards maybe 400 to 500 yds max range HUNTING scope i like a 1.5x6x42 or 44mm with a 30mm tube . Most have a 65’fov @100 or more up to 84′ fov @100yds . The low light preformance is just Awesome . Closest thing to night vision a guy can have in my experiance . I like a lit reticle also . At 400yds the difficulty factor is the same as a std rifle sight at 75yds . Same sight picture for both . Im not a guy that wants to cipher which 2 hairs i want to put my bullet between At All . By the same token excellant accuracy is still very much doable for clean game harvests even out there . I sometimes stalk so the close quick target acquisition i find vital for success on a animal thats making tracks . Im a bird hunter all my life so this isnt hard for me to do for deer as well  on the move . A scope as ive described really shines for this !!! Im in Michigan so woods plus open areas coverage is the norm for me . Farmland too as well as powerline coverages . I try to put myself when sitting in spots that offer both near and further oportunities if possible .  The scopes tend to be only around 20 oz so weight isnt bad for a field gun of a max of 10 lbs preferably  under .  Hawke has a nice inexpensive model in their Wide Angle 30mm series  thats 1.5x6x44 for around $400ish last i looked .  Its fairly tough and holds zero too . I like it as its basic . 

Ive taken note of a couple of German Precision Optics offering i really like that have the fabulous wide FOV at lower power but have more magnification on the upper end for further shots . One is a 2×12 x 44 x 30mm and the other is a 1.5x9x44x30mm . Both look fabulous as great all around scopes close , far and inbetween for the serious hunter that hunts many various scenarios and looks to do it all effectively . Lighted And Dialable too . Thats my take on my prefered type of scope for this type of higher preforance rifle . 

I have a nice 45 thats heavy to carry about but is a nice stationary tower blind or just the regular outhouse type blind as i call them lol . 

It wears a 4x16x40 Vortex Diamondback with bdc and works well for that type of hunting or target use for me .  

I dont have the wallet as some do for Nightforce or other really fancy scopes anyway . Plus honestly beyond 500 or 600 yds im really not interested in shooting further at anything  – paper , steel , and definately not live game .  Thats not for me . 

If you dont shoot big boomer super high velocity loads you dont need those big dollar scopes . Theres a practicle side to smokeless that mamy dont pursue . This is just one aspect of that thinking  . 

Quote from Sideshow on 06/21/2023, 05:39

Wow i dont my edit so i will try this again . Idont have the walet for a fanvy Nightforce big dollsr scope as many do . But i dont try to shoot big boomer warp speed heavy bullet loads either that just destroy lesser scopes . Theres a pacticlity in this if you cant afford those scopes that can handle horrendius recoil . You just dont chase that type of shooting . That works for me .  

Quote from customguns on 06/21/2023, 09:27

What is the typical load you like to shoot and at what velocity? For myself I consider a medium load as a 300 grain .45 at 2600 fps., but realize not everyone considers a medium load the same thing. Heard some guys call that a light load and others call it heavy. I like the Leupold Mark 4 scopes. Excellent at low light levels and reasonably priced if you catch them on sale. I’ve gotten several on sale at Midway, but right now Midway shows them as discontinued. When I was younger Tasco was about all I could afford. Boscovs sold them in a plastic wrap for about $50. They usually only lasted a few years. When I could afford an upgrade went with Leupold and have found them to be a very good scope for the price. I’ve shot other guys Swarovskis and Nightforces, really nice glass, a little better than Leupold, but I’ve found Leupold plenty good for low light hunting. 

 

 

 

Quote from Sideshow on 06/22/2023, 03:19

Medium load is i suppose a good name for them . Although my 45s velocity is under 2600 with 62gr H4198 and a 300 aeromax . This is what it shoots best . Its a barrel nut 700 so i couldnt even if i wanted to push the 300 faster . But honestly its plenty . I entertain no desires for more than that from it . It wears that Vortex 4×16 x40 and isnt a carry around rifle at all . It is a beauty on a bench however !

My current project will wear that Hawke WA 30mm 1.5x6x44 with 84 ft FOV .  . Its a switch rig 54, 50 , 416  700ML . Only the 416  , 1 in 14 Wilson barrel is for smokeless with a Woodman Arms  adjustable 209 , bushing bp . Woodman claims that plug will work up to 60k psi with 209s and .004″ crush fit .  I wont push it that hard . Smooth sized .410 210gr Furys around 260O to 2700 maybe faster  should be a easy 350++ yd very manageable recoil load from a 8 lb — scoped rifle with a 408/416 #5.5 sporter 26 inch barrel shooting flat as a pancake and burning CLEAN  .  That should be a pretty sexy woods , stalking , smaller open area rifle easily encompassing over 90% of whats truly needed to hunt with in most aeas . Just point and shoot . Balanced on the recoil lug it will handle like a Ferrari . Lighter annealed  copper monos under 200gr will also be tried . Bullets as heavy as 250s or more jacketed are available in .410 too and i also have 280 , 330 , and 400 gr conicals from my 410 White Super 91 that will work with bh209 if id like . A 250 gr jacketed is just under 2400 with only 84grW of bh209 and the abiity for easily more .  This will be a versitile inexpensive rig when done . Stainless and in a handsome curly tiger striped walnut skip-line checkered 700 adl stock . “Nostalgia”  will be a  unique muzzleloader able to hunt most anywhere and most anything with 3 calibers to choose from . A cheat sheet will put each barrel deadly close when switched in under 10 minutes  . I will like this one Alot !!! 

Quote from Sideshow on 06/26/2023, 03:47

The GPO scopes i mentioned id like to put on a 40 that my parts pile needs modified . I have a Remington 40x action single shot but want a Defiance AnTi . The barrel is a Brux #6 with a 5 inch shank . I intend that to go back to Brux to be recontoured from a 1.246 shank to a 1.200 . Id also like the barrel reduced from 1 inch /.750 muzzle to .925/.725 muzzle . 10.5 lbs scoped is a bit more than im after .  I want a further more powerfull punch and reach than the 700ml with a 416 is capable of but i dont want the weight . The action is expensive however !!!  I want the ability of 275gr max to shoot 2900 to 3000 in a light package to use those GPO scopes more fully . I know this does contradict what ive previously said .  This ones the hot rod and will also have a powder chamber . Thats the plan anyway . Id also like to recontour the 45s barrel from a #17 to a #6 .  Theres really no acurracy loss and why carry the weight ?? Im not getting any younger . 

Quote from Ninering62 on 06/28/2023, 09:38

My “Prefered scope”;

Wellll I can’t even come close to affording the kind of optics I want. It seems that in my learning from many yrs of using El Cheapo optics to learning about what real quality optics are & what they bring to the table vs 200-300.00 optics, I developed a champagne & caviar taste on a beer & slimjims budget. 

As to ” favorites “, I do not & never have had a fav brand or specific scope, I’m more apt to have a fav for hunting, another fav for target shooting and another for another application.

I tend to prefer a SFP with excellent low light capabilities & a nice wide low end FOV for my hunting purposes. 

Sideshow turned me on to GPO scopes a cpl yrs ago, I’ve seen nothing that compares to their quality, incredibly wide low end FOV, adjustability & low light capabilities even close to their price range. I’m beyond impressed with them, especially their Spectra 6 series & the Passion series. I want one really badly. Meopta is another awesome SFP hunting scope with quality & features beyond its cost.

I decided to get a Trijicon Credo 2.5-15×42 IRMOA scope for my .40 Omega SML which I just got word last Fri that I should have that back pretty soon. I think that will be a fantastic hunting scope on that gun. 

I’ve been a big Shepherd scope fan for a cpl decades, had 3 of them. They bring quality & a lot of high end bells & whistles to the table for their price range too. Never an issue with either of them.

I just put a new Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12×42 on my .45 Accura V2 & boy oh boy am I ever impressed & loving this scope, its overall quality & the much higher end features it has – for a very budget friendly price. I can see owning more than one of these scopes, seriously. 

As to bench rest target scopes, I can’t afford what I want, but there are numerous 1000.00-2000.00ish FFP MOA scopes avail that I really like. I got a decent deal on the Vortex VIper Gen2 5-25×50 FFP IRMOA that I put on my Paramount. I could point out some things that – for what it costs normally, it should have more features & better quality, but its pretty good for what I’m using it for & what I could afford. Would I replace it if money were not an issue – yes, absolutely!