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#1 · 06/28/2023, 11:09

Converting Paramount to Smokeless Muzzleloader

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#2 · 06/28/2023, 18:40

Good video Tim.

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#3 · 07/09/2023, 07:22

This is actually a nicer conversion than the 700 Remington i think . That bolt nose you make is a jewel !!! VERY NICE !!! This is on a 700 footprint so everthing else applies too . Jeez for around what those aftermarket muzzy actions cost you get a complete rifle as a donor and still get that sweet loading feature with the moduals done by you !!! This IS a great deal you offer for this conversion !!! Great Job Tim !!!

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#4 · 07/09/2023, 12:40

Thanks. I kept hearing it couldn’t be done, so I had to see if I could do it. That video is what set many people off on another forum. I had tried other ignition systems that failed, until I went with the Hankins ignition system, which Jeff will tell you isn’t even made for the Paramount. Hankins ignition with my bolt nose works very well. Made them in .45, .40 and .338.

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#5 · 07/11/2023, 02:27

I saw how you were treated on that other forum by the low lifes . You put them in their place professionally and exposed the crap theyre all about . Excellant And Classy defending your statements . I got the same from the same jerk . He makes himself looks stupid defending BS with lies !!! The entire web knows it too . Me Banned was a favor lol !!! AMF !!!

This Paramount conversion you do is ultra sexy . Its the best bar none i think . Hankins system beats the hell out of the copy cat then patented one too . Thats low . If something is wrong with the copy its always your fault too never his . He is all done in my book !!! The cliques in muzzleloading are a Major black eye that needant be . You keep right on building a great muzzy brother . Those who have a clue realize that and will support a superior product !!! Your Paramount conversion is exactly that in many ways .

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mb.mnt.monkey@gmail.com

06/19/2023

Been shooting a converted pair amount for about a year now Woodman arms did it for me Mark at Woodman arms if anyone else is looking, I’m a big Paramount fan in spite of the issues a lot of people have had with bullets and board dimensions I had those problems with my gun and that’s why I chose to be Barrel it very happy with it and the results and 18 twist brux,, was I able to get a number 17 Contour down into the factory stock with a little work I have since then put a new stock on the rifle a lot more to say maybe it’s time goes on.

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mb.mnt.monkey@gmail.com

06/19/2023

First post on a new site and I don’t bother to hit spell check sorry about that I do have my own language

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timmoss.social

06/19/2023

See your post.

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Sideshow

06/19/2023

Well thats a pretty hot load alright in a 40 !!! A bit hotter than i desire .

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1. customguns
  
  06/19/2023
  
  It is, but I checked with Ken at Brux Barrel and Kyle Pittman ran the Quickloads calculation on it. It’s a right stout recoil, even with a muzzle brake, but manageable and safe in my rifle.
  
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  1. Sideshow
    
    06/19/2023
    
    Yes a QuickLoads program is a Requirement for the 40 if you intend to stay healthy lol . In fact its difficult to keep lighter bullet loads in the 49 to 53 Kpsi areas with some faster powders and light bullets . Thats what Hankins brass moduals will handle usually . The Alum-bronze ,AB ,hard moduals handle to 62k psi or so . The quick pressure rise of a 40 is both good and bad but definately one to watch out for Very Carefully . The higher pressure is needed for cleaner burning of a powder . Just watch out for the 40s tendacy to suddenly spike with very little more powder .
    
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Sideshow

06/19/2023

What i dont like is 300gr and above bullets seem to take massive powder charges to obturate bullets acceptably and truthfully full sizing too . TRUTHFULLY Direct ignition should be used too to help obturation with the long heavier bullets .
Life on the lighter side is just far easier to me all around .

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Sideshow

06/20/2023

INCIDENTLY ADMINISTRATORS …….
Mtn Monkey gave me the web address of this site . On a google search it WONT BE FOUND . Without Marks info i Never could have got on here . Even to re find this site i must put that link he gave me back in . The history on my device connects to No Where . Just a heads up on what ive found guys . Figure i best say something .
Oh yes i was going to start a thread under the 700ml section and couldnt figure out how to post it ?? Lol i know that sounds bad but……
Thanks for your attention on these details . Sideshow…..

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1. Sideshow
  
  06/20/2023
  
  My bad — I didnt tell you all congatulations !! Sorry guys .
  I know gettng the bugs out and such is only a time thing and will be handled . I hope to see you grow and prosper too . Smokeless muzzleloading seems to be in another “changeing” mode now . Im likeing the apparent offerings in choices listed . Good idea !!!
  
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2. customguns
  
  06/21/2023
  
  It will take awhile for the site to rank on a Google search, but it’s registered with the search engines. Just takes time.
  
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  1. Sideshow
    
    06/22/2023
    
    Ok . I know new usually does .
    
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  2. Sideshow
    
    06/26/2023
    
    I hate to say this but ive been continueing to use google search to find this site . It doesnt work .
    I believe you are going to need a name change to be found . The previous site with this name is the ONLY ONE OFFERED .
    This will kill this one before it ever has a chance . If i dont use the web address mtn monkey gave to to click on i dont get on here . If i put in the Same Exact Things that are in the web address he gave me IT WILL NOT CONNECT TO HERE !!!
    If i were you id change the name because here is Not Recognized AT ALL . JUST SAYIN……this isnt working out .
    
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    1. customguns
      
      06/27/2023
      
      Sideshow,
      Took four months for my website to show up on Google and I used a professional company to register with all the search engines. This site shows up first on Yandex and second on several others. Google is not gun friendly. Site has been up a week. To pronounce it’s not working out is premature. I currently have five websites. All of them took time to climb the search engine rankings. By time I mean months.
      
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      1. Sideshow
        
        06/29/2023
        
        Tim the operation of this site has more troubles than you think . Not being a Smart A** just being honest . I cant tell you how many times ive had to make a new passward because mine doesnt work day to day . Yes im frustrated but im.also here to help you . Im telling you theres problems with this site . Whorever put it up professionally has got bugs to chase out of it . It Doesnt Work Right .
logandriggers

06/30/2023

Never owned a smokeless muzzleloader but am an avid hunter. What would be a great first smokeless muzzleloader to get

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1. customguns
  
  07/07/2023
  
  Convert a CVA Scout 45/70 to a smokeless .45. Inexpensive way to get into SML and it’s a very accurate gun.
  
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customguns

07/01/2023

As you find bugs please let us know so we can address them. Thanks

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Decay

07/07/2023

Hi Tim.

I like the idea of having you convert my Paramount 45 cal to a 40 cal Brux barrel so I can use VVN120 and a Fury 225gr Black tip. I want a 400 yd capable rifle that shoots incredibly good, and doesn’t kick my shoulder to death. I don’t want to use a muzzle brake. This rifle is almost exclusively for deer hunting from tower tree stands in the cold of Wisconsin’s December muzzleloader hunt. I’d like to keep the Paramount stock, and have the barrel match the OEM barrel’s external dimensions as close as possible to minimize cost of stock alterations, but if alterations are necessary, then that’s ok too. The barrel should match the color of the Paramount/Bergara barrel, or maybe a matte silver, but not be a shiny, high gloss finish, I’ll keep my Leupold VariXIII, 6 x 20 x 42 on it.

What twist is best for the 225 grain, .402 Fury? 1:14? Do you think I’m wrong wanting the lighter weight Fury? If so what do you recommend?

I’ll need you to help me order the Brux barrel.

Thanks.

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1. customguns
  
  07/07/2023
  
  I’ll defer to Mountain Monkey, Ninering62 or one of the other guys on best rate of twist on a light bullet. I only shoot heavier bullets, 350 grain in the .40. I like the high ballistic coefficient and energy dump the heavier bullets deliver. Where I hunt if the deer or bear doesn’t drop in its tracks, I may never find it. It’s always been my understanding the quicker rate of twist is for heavier bullets. My .40 has a 1 in 14 twist rate and I get .25” groups at 100 yards using 350 grain bullets.
  
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2. Sideshow
  
  07/09/2023
  
  That 1 in 14 will serve you just fine for a 40 useing light bullets . You also will be fine with a #6 Brux on the gun for shooting considerably heavier loads and bullets . I have that now and will be recontouring to a 1.2 inch shank for a half pound loss with a slightly heavier , .025″ , than a #5 barrel for more weight reduction . I wont venture over the 275gr pittman or hammers with up to 80 gr of H4895 . Thats mid 2900s + velocity . 8lbs scoped braked or not thats gonna kick . 56 to 57gr of 4198 w a 225gr is 2800 fps from a 26in barrel . Less n120 will put you there and easily kill deer to 400yds and more .
  Youll want pittman hardcores too so the 228s he calls them . 2550 fps and under for regular pittmans that open up quickly and do massive damage but use the 3gr heavier hardcores for velocitys above that . Especially if youd like a exit wound . Hope this helps ..
  
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Mach3 Muzzleloaders

07/07/2023

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